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Post by Freeman Sun Nov 30, 2008 7:09 pm

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Post by AVDRT Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:29 pm

One of the biggest reasons I am so (pounding fist on table) dissapointed in the lack of revs in this revolution through history concerning the militia is that 1) Evil succeeds when good people do nothing to intervene. 2) Every single time anything resembling a militia gets mentioned its because somebody wants their exotic garden and bomb making gear. 3) This in turn spooks ALL recruits and prospects so we can not slowly open their eyes.

If we as a society and union of states do not stand together when someone does something positive to reverse this decent into history then we will fail. If any state seccedes from our sacred union because of their conviction that our sacred union is not following the contract agreed upon, every state should do the same.

There is one problem though. Actually a matrix based on a logistical challenge.

Supply.... The south failed to win the war of 1812 because of supply issues. Currently a try at seccesion would end the same way. Remember the fed controls the military who does whatever they please wherever they want. New Orleans, Waco, Ruby Ridge, Food co-op in ohio...,,, need I say more...

The problems with violence in africa is because there are a few people who are leading a very armed group and they get first dibs on food. Everybody else starves. Want food, join this group, want medicine join this group. then the leaders test their skill by fighting their groups and taking the spoils. Oklahoma, and yes our Alabama are not prepared for that. OK especially is landlocked. Alabama at least has a seaport and the tennessee river.

The good news is that we know somethings about our military. THEY WILL OBEY ORDERS TO DISARM CIVILIANS. THEY WILL OBEY ORDERS TO SEIZE PROPERTY AND SEARCH PERSONS AND PAPERS.

AVDRT may not be able to lead a logistic coupe to secure alternate supply methods. AVDRT can set the example to educate and encourage citizens from all over the union to become less dependent on outside supply solutions. It all starts with a willingness to try something new.

Everyone puts a great deal of emphasis on firearm training. Thats a great idea for those whose Logistic Towers can support that endeavor. The problem is when you have bullets and firearms and no food. So you take food from others? That is criminal. Called stealing. Stealing from someone who had the motivation to grow that food and store it up.

Seccession is one solution...however done in solitude it will lead to ruin. Get together..., Get your Logistic Towers built..., weed out the dope smoking socialists with guns who will ruin any hope of attracting fresh members..., weed out those individuals who feel it necessary to make explosives. None of us has the time and energy or the logistical matrix in place to deal with the collateral and exponential problems associated with the afforementioned troublemakers.

We need supplies. EOS. Currently the best way to get supplies is to use national currency. Bartering is always an option for those that are willing. Try bartering honey for a diesel powered generator. try exchanging said generator with money and wallah! its yours free and clear.

Seccession will only work when a WRITTEN PLAN is tested, refined, and tested again. Once that is done we need men of strong moral character who will no be bribed or coerced. We need women who will stand up and stand next to their men instead of snitching on them.

IOW if we want seccession to work. WE NEED PEOPLE!!

Develope a plan to teach new members the benefit of living per God's Will and stick with it!! Don't start in with Bible thumping. Start out with....

A long time ago in Egypt, no one is quite certain about the date, a disaster was brewing. A disaster created by the egyptians themselves. A young man named Joeseph was asked for a solution. After some thought he gave his answer. For seven years he built warehouses to store the excess of the land. Then when hard times came there was plenty in the land of egypt. The government took advantage of its citizens who had become vain. They were too good to work a garden and save up for dire times. If you wanted food you had to wait in line like livestock. you were only given a specified amount. you were only allowed to get more according to a schedule. That is the exact situation our nation is in.

Let us not follow in Egypts footsteps. Let us follow instead the Israelites several hundred years later after they left Egypt. They settled in Canaan. Grew gardens and raised livestock. Saved for their dire moments and prospered. Few had any currency and it was used seldom. Bartering was king. Someone had something you wanted or knew something you wanted to know and you exchanged something else for it.

Having said that....

It takes a very long time to do this. It takes even longer when we allow our fear and timidness dictate who and where we talk to others. The internet is a passive place to meet likeminded people. If we are to succeed in reversing this nations decent, we need to be active.

I have some ideas that I use. You have some ideas that you use. Together through time we will find the most efficient way of doing this. I have slowed my attendance to out of state ftx's to concentrate on Alabama. In turn, each of you must do the same. Jesus said "I am the way the truth and the life. No ONE gets to the Father but by me."

That is a really powerful lesson. It not only emphasises the way to salvation, but it also demonstrates that if we are to do this and well we must allow ourselves to be the light in the darkness that people can see. Whats more we have to be worth looking at.

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