when is enough enough? Part 1
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when is enough enough? Part 1
by Freeman Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:40 pm
Outline of Contents:
I AM NOT EDVICATING THE USE OF VIOLANCE. THIS E'MAIL WAS SENT TO ME AND IT DISCUSSES HOW HISTORY REPEAT'S ITSELF.
WHEN IS IT TIME TO START SHOOTING? --main essay, from http://www.comeandtakeit.com . I would certainly like to hear from people in law enforcement and military.
Possible Confrontations
Past Confrontations
Common Themes Of Confrontations
Preparing For Confrontations
1. Know The Truth
2. Develop Key Allies
3. Meet People On Their Level
4. Bring Along The Population
5. Keep Your Eyes Open And Your Mind Sharp
6. Know Your Friends, And Know How To Communicate With Them
7. Inform The Masses
8. Defend
9. Those In Power Should Speak Out And Stand Up
Appendices:
Appendix I
WHY WILL MANY PEOPLE NOT SHOW UP TO HELP US?
Appendix II
THE SECOND AMENDMENT: GUARANTOR OF THE REST OF THE CONSTITUTION, AND WORTH DEFENDING WITH YOUR LIFE.
Appendix III
CASE STUDIES
The Branch Davidians.
Randy Weaver/Kevin Harris
Boston Massacre.
The Disarming of Boston.
Lexington Green.
Gonzales, Texas 1835
An Un-named Fellow Who Went Armed In Public
Joe Gray.
Indianapolis Baptist Temple
Road Blocks.
The Police Officer Accused Of Raping A Woman.
California Gun Confiscation, House To House Searches, .50 BMGBuyback/Confiscation, Class III Confiscation
Appendix IV
A FEW MISCELLANEOUS NOTES NOT YET INCORPORATED INTO THE MAIN ESSAY
Non-lethal defenses
Does an armed populace guarantee liberty?
When is it time to STOP shooting?
"Tax Protesting"
A Few Biblical Reasons Why We Should Not Flee To Another Country To Escape The Coming Confrontations.
I AM NOT EDVICATING THE USE OF VIOLANCE. THIS E'MAIL WAS SENT TO ME AND IT DISCUSSES HOW HISTORY REPEAT'S ITSELF.
WHEN IS IT TIME TO START SHOOTING? --main essay, from http://www.comeandtakeit.com . I would certainly like to hear from people in law enforcement and military.
Possible Confrontations
Past Confrontations
Common Themes Of Confrontations
Preparing For Confrontations
1. Know The Truth
2. Develop Key Allies
3. Meet People On Their Level
4. Bring Along The Population
5. Keep Your Eyes Open And Your Mind Sharp
6. Know Your Friends, And Know How To Communicate With Them
7. Inform The Masses
8. Defend
9. Those In Power Should Speak Out And Stand Up
Appendices:
Appendix I
WHY WILL MANY PEOPLE NOT SHOW UP TO HELP US?
Appendix II
THE SECOND AMENDMENT: GUARANTOR OF THE REST OF THE CONSTITUTION, AND WORTH DEFENDING WITH YOUR LIFE.
Appendix III
CASE STUDIES
The Branch Davidians.
Randy Weaver/Kevin Harris
Boston Massacre.
The Disarming of Boston.
Lexington Green.
Gonzales, Texas 1835
An Un-named Fellow Who Went Armed In Public
Joe Gray.
Indianapolis Baptist Temple
Road Blocks.
The Police Officer Accused Of Raping A Woman.
California Gun Confiscation, House To House Searches, .50 BMGBuyback/Confiscation, Class III Confiscation
Appendix IV
A FEW MISCELLANEOUS NOTES NOT YET INCORPORATED INTO THE MAIN ESSAY
Non-lethal defenses
Does an armed populace guarantee liberty?
When is it time to STOP shooting?
"Tax Protesting"
A Few Biblical Reasons Why We Should Not Flee To Another Country To Escape The Coming Confrontations.
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when is enough enough? Part 2
by Freeman Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:41 pm
WHEN IS IT TIME TO START SHOOTING?
by David C. Treibs (sirdavid@ktc.com) please read it and send me your feedback!
If present trends continue, it seems inevitable that a violent confrontation of some sort will occur between those enforcing gun control, verses those refusing to be disarmed. It may be that the election of George Bush will retard those trends, but probably only for a few years, if any. With the "War On Terrorism, (ie, the War To Eliminate The Last Vestiges Of Constitutional Liberty)" it might happen even sooner.
A few confrontations have already happened, or are happening now. The Branch Davidians were hunkered down in Waco for 51 days after being attacked. Randy Weaver was likewise surrounded. Joe Gray sits in his home awaiting imminent attack.
Others can be predicted.
Possible Confrontations
Living in California, you failed to surrender your SKS or other assault rifle during the grace period, and now police are knocking on your door to arrest you and confiscate your weapon.
In a high-crime, government housing project, police are going door to door without a warrant, searching for weapons, and arresting anyone found with arms. You have a weapon in your apartment.
DPS is conducting a roadblock to pull over and search every second or third vehicle for anything illegal. You are carrying a handgun without a concealed carry permit, and your vehicle is pulled over. Canines are ready to sniff the cars of anyone refusing to allow his car to be searched, guaranteeing a hit, which will be interpreted as probable cause to forcibly search you and your car.
Several years ago you purchased and assembled a .50 BMG Maadi-Griffin kit gun. Bob Stewart, owner of the company lost his court case: the government found that the kits were weapons. Having your info from Bob Stewart's files, BATF sent you a letter demanding you register your weapon, or surrender it without compensation, which you refused to do, and now you have multiple class A felonies against you. BATF will be in your neighborhood within a few days.
Charles Schumer teams with George Bush after a highly publicized shooting, to revoke the licenses of all Class III firearms. Your neighbor owns one, but says he will not comply, on Second Amendment grounds.
On a major spending bill that must pass to keep the government from shutting down, Congress piggy-backs a bill requiring that all firearms be registered, on pain of felony charges. You never noted gun registration as being one of the enumerated powers of Congress, and so you refuse.
A terrorist threat has been received, and the military has been called out to set up roadblocks to search all vehicles for the terrorists and anything illegal, and weapons of any sort. You are carrying a rifle in your truck as you make your way to the farm.
You hear that a local activist is surrounded by law enforcement. They say he is holed up in a "compound," and is speaking irrationally on the phone. He is alleged to have .50 cal machine guns, surface to air missiles, biological and chemical weapons, high explosives, and may be manufacturing drugs and abusing children. Roads are blocked off, and you note several armored personnel carriers brought in on trucks.
The President signs an agreement with the Organization of American States under the umbrella of the UN that calls for drastic new gun control, to be implemented by local police, augmented by federal agencies, the National Guard, and the military, as necessary. You are a deputy with the police. What will you do?
A new law allows you to have only 10 firearms before you are required to register as having an "arsenal," and you have over 10, but refuse to comply. BATF is illegally using yellow sheets (Form 4473) to find those who have over 10, and all your purchases were made on 4473s. They will visit you soon, warrant in hand.
If not partly true, most of the above scenarios are fairly realistic and possible, based on current law, or current trends. The scenarios amount to a confrontation between those who will disarm the populace, and those who refuse to be disarmed. The more we see these confrontations arising, the more people will ask: how should we respond? Or, as Claire Wolf's article is titled, "When Is It Time to Shoot the [So-and-Sos]?"
by David C. Treibs (sirdavid@ktc.com) please read it and send me your feedback!
If present trends continue, it seems inevitable that a violent confrontation of some sort will occur between those enforcing gun control, verses those refusing to be disarmed. It may be that the election of George Bush will retard those trends, but probably only for a few years, if any. With the "War On Terrorism, (ie, the War To Eliminate The Last Vestiges Of Constitutional Liberty)" it might happen even sooner.
A few confrontations have already happened, or are happening now. The Branch Davidians were hunkered down in Waco for 51 days after being attacked. Randy Weaver was likewise surrounded. Joe Gray sits in his home awaiting imminent attack.
Others can be predicted.
Possible Confrontations
Living in California, you failed to surrender your SKS or other assault rifle during the grace period, and now police are knocking on your door to arrest you and confiscate your weapon.
In a high-crime, government housing project, police are going door to door without a warrant, searching for weapons, and arresting anyone found with arms. You have a weapon in your apartment.
DPS is conducting a roadblock to pull over and search every second or third vehicle for anything illegal. You are carrying a handgun without a concealed carry permit, and your vehicle is pulled over. Canines are ready to sniff the cars of anyone refusing to allow his car to be searched, guaranteeing a hit, which will be interpreted as probable cause to forcibly search you and your car.
Several years ago you purchased and assembled a .50 BMG Maadi-Griffin kit gun. Bob Stewart, owner of the company lost his court case: the government found that the kits were weapons. Having your info from Bob Stewart's files, BATF sent you a letter demanding you register your weapon, or surrender it without compensation, which you refused to do, and now you have multiple class A felonies against you. BATF will be in your neighborhood within a few days.
Charles Schumer teams with George Bush after a highly publicized shooting, to revoke the licenses of all Class III firearms. Your neighbor owns one, but says he will not comply, on Second Amendment grounds.
On a major spending bill that must pass to keep the government from shutting down, Congress piggy-backs a bill requiring that all firearms be registered, on pain of felony charges. You never noted gun registration as being one of the enumerated powers of Congress, and so you refuse.
A terrorist threat has been received, and the military has been called out to set up roadblocks to search all vehicles for the terrorists and anything illegal, and weapons of any sort. You are carrying a rifle in your truck as you make your way to the farm.
You hear that a local activist is surrounded by law enforcement. They say he is holed up in a "compound," and is speaking irrationally on the phone. He is alleged to have .50 cal machine guns, surface to air missiles, biological and chemical weapons, high explosives, and may be manufacturing drugs and abusing children. Roads are blocked off, and you note several armored personnel carriers brought in on trucks.
The President signs an agreement with the Organization of American States under the umbrella of the UN that calls for drastic new gun control, to be implemented by local police, augmented by federal agencies, the National Guard, and the military, as necessary. You are a deputy with the police. What will you do?
A new law allows you to have only 10 firearms before you are required to register as having an "arsenal," and you have over 10, but refuse to comply. BATF is illegally using yellow sheets (Form 4473) to find those who have over 10, and all your purchases were made on 4473s. They will visit you soon, warrant in hand.
If not partly true, most of the above scenarios are fairly realistic and possible, based on current law, or current trends. The scenarios amount to a confrontation between those who will disarm the populace, and those who refuse to be disarmed. The more we see these confrontations arising, the more people will ask: how should we respond? Or, as Claire Wolf's article is titled, "When Is It Time to Shoot the [So-and-Sos]?"
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when is enough enough? Part 3
by Freeman Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:41 pm
Responses range from: shoot 'em all and then some, to: I don't know. Following is my effort to approach the matter from a historical, Constitutional, Biblical, and common sense approach. I'm hoping that an open discussion will keep many on our side from making major mistakes; and will give us a better chance at winning, should more confrontations occur. I hope that the end result of this essay is a set of principles which will guide our responses as anti-Second Amendment activities increase.
Obviously, very obviously, the first response is court action, injunctions, and such; and the second response is legislative--you change the law. This paper addresses what we should consider when all appeals and peaceful courses of action have been thoroughly and completely exhausted.
Past Confrontations
American colonists faced a similar dilemma--an increasingly oppressive and militant government bent on crushing their liberty. The result was a gradual buildup of anti-British sentiment. The Americans endured many years suffering and oppression. Their many petitions fell on deaf ears. They variously suffered the Boston Massacre, the Stamp Act, the Tea Tax, conscriptions, plundering, troop quartering, and many other abuses, some of which are catalogued in the Declaration of Independence.
Gradually, the people realized they were under a tyranny, and they felt its sting.
People concluded that armed resistance might be inevitable, and they began preparing: arming, training, setting up lines of communications, spy networks, etc.
The move toward armed resistance took on political embodiment. Committees of Safety sprang up in many places. The Provisional Congress made various preparations. These widespread political actions belies a widespread support for armed resistance.
Even the first shots at Lexington and Concord were preceded by a gradual buildup of maneuvers by the British and counter maneuvers by the Americans. On different occasions spanning months, columns of British troops marched out of Boston, and were shadowed by thousands of militia, and the spreading news of the British on the march brought out even more militia. (An absolutely indispensable book is The Minute Men. The First Fight: Myths and Realities of the American Revolution, by John R. Galvin, Brassey's, Inc., 1313 Dolley Madison Blvd., Suite 401, McLean, Va. 22101.)
Similar developments lead to the revolution for Texas independence. Texas was part of Mexico, governed by a federal constitution that had been secured in 1824. Santa Anna ascended to the presidency in Mexico, and gradually began taking the reigns of power into his hands. He ended up as the dictator of Mexico, ignoring the Constitution of 1824. Several states resisted his various moves, and Santa Anna turned the military loose on one of the states, brutally crushing the resistance. None of these moves sat well with Texans, but their inclination was to settle matters peacefully, and those who wanted a war were in the minority. Mexican troops were sent into the state as unrest towards Santa Anna increased, but these troops only further alienated the populace, so that, at some point, the majority saw war as the only recourse. When a number of troops were sent to confiscate a cannon held by the town of Gonzales, the citizens politely declined to surrender the cannon to stall for time, and sent for armed assistance from the surrounding areas. Volunteers responded, and after several days the Texans had a sufficient force to engage the troops. When it became apparent that the troops would not leave without the cannon, the Texans attacked and routed the troops, which retreated to their headquarters in Bexar county. Many of the citizen soldiers then marched to Bexar, to drive the troops out of Texas. Eventually, a number of those from Gonzales ended up in the siege of the Alamo, and paid the price for the liberty we now enjoy. (For more details, see: http://www.comeandtakeit.com )
Obviously, very obviously, the first response is court action, injunctions, and such; and the second response is legislative--you change the law. This paper addresses what we should consider when all appeals and peaceful courses of action have been thoroughly and completely exhausted.
Past Confrontations
American colonists faced a similar dilemma--an increasingly oppressive and militant government bent on crushing their liberty. The result was a gradual buildup of anti-British sentiment. The Americans endured many years suffering and oppression. Their many petitions fell on deaf ears. They variously suffered the Boston Massacre, the Stamp Act, the Tea Tax, conscriptions, plundering, troop quartering, and many other abuses, some of which are catalogued in the Declaration of Independence.
Gradually, the people realized they were under a tyranny, and they felt its sting.
People concluded that armed resistance might be inevitable, and they began preparing: arming, training, setting up lines of communications, spy networks, etc.
The move toward armed resistance took on political embodiment. Committees of Safety sprang up in many places. The Provisional Congress made various preparations. These widespread political actions belies a widespread support for armed resistance.
Even the first shots at Lexington and Concord were preceded by a gradual buildup of maneuvers by the British and counter maneuvers by the Americans. On different occasions spanning months, columns of British troops marched out of Boston, and were shadowed by thousands of militia, and the spreading news of the British on the march brought out even more militia. (An absolutely indispensable book is The Minute Men. The First Fight: Myths and Realities of the American Revolution, by John R. Galvin, Brassey's, Inc., 1313 Dolley Madison Blvd., Suite 401, McLean, Va. 22101.)
Similar developments lead to the revolution for Texas independence. Texas was part of Mexico, governed by a federal constitution that had been secured in 1824. Santa Anna ascended to the presidency in Mexico, and gradually began taking the reigns of power into his hands. He ended up as the dictator of Mexico, ignoring the Constitution of 1824. Several states resisted his various moves, and Santa Anna turned the military loose on one of the states, brutally crushing the resistance. None of these moves sat well with Texans, but their inclination was to settle matters peacefully, and those who wanted a war were in the minority. Mexican troops were sent into the state as unrest towards Santa Anna increased, but these troops only further alienated the populace, so that, at some point, the majority saw war as the only recourse. When a number of troops were sent to confiscate a cannon held by the town of Gonzales, the citizens politely declined to surrender the cannon to stall for time, and sent for armed assistance from the surrounding areas. Volunteers responded, and after several days the Texans had a sufficient force to engage the troops. When it became apparent that the troops would not leave without the cannon, the Texans attacked and routed the troops, which retreated to their headquarters in Bexar county. Many of the citizen soldiers then marched to Bexar, to drive the troops out of Texas. Eventually, a number of those from Gonzales ended up in the siege of the Alamo, and paid the price for the liberty we now enjoy. (For more details, see: http://www.comeandtakeit.com )
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when is enough enough? Part 4
by Freeman Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:42 pm
Common Themes Of Confrontations
In looking back at the American and Texas revolutions began, several common themes emerge.
At first, the majority of the populations favored peacefully settling the differences, but as their petitions fell on deaf ears, and the oppression worsened, the majority gradually began to consider armed resistance as the only recourse. The oppressors' responded, not with an olive branch, but with a mailed fist, further pushing many of the populations to extreme measures. As relations crumbled, the oppressors resorted to disarming the opposition, which finally ignited the revolutions.
What will it take for us to successfully repulse the boots attempting to forever stomp on our faces into the dust (George Orwell)?
If we start with just the basics, it will become evident that we have a long way to go before enough like-minded people are sufficiently prepared to win a confrontation.
Preparing For Confrontations
1. Know The Truth
Understand the principles over which we struggle. It sounds ridiculously basic, but I don't see that most people involved in the struggle have an understanding of what's at stake, and what's right, and what's wrong.
I consider the Bible, and the Constitution (and associated documents) the two foundations of this country, and the foundations of liberty. Without both, we will have no liberty.
Foundational concepts include: God grants rights, and government's role is to secure those rights, including the rights to private property. The Constitution enumerates certain rights, including the right to keep and bear arms. The federal government is granted about 20 enumerated--specifically listed--powers, and may do nothing other than those listed powers, which means 90% of what the federal government does is unconstitutional, that is, illegal. Furthermore, (if I understand correctly) the Constitution states that judges must enforce the Constitution, even in states and local governments, meaning that the states also may not infringe on rights enumerated in the Constitution, especially since God has granted those rights. Families, primarily the fathers, are to provide housing and sustenance for their families. Parents are to raise, train, educate, and otherwise equip their children (not government schools or day care centers or self-appointed village idiots). Nobody is supposed to steal, including the government, which it does when it takes money from those who earned it and gives/lends it to those who didn't earn it (Social Security, unemployment, farm loans/grants, welfare, AFDC, Pell grants, small business loans, Medicaid, Medicare, job training, public works projects, etc, etc, etc!!). The people are supposed to be moral (no adultery, bearing of false witness, homosexuality, murder, etc).
Being involved in the Republican Party for more or less 15 years, I found many of the finest people in Texas. Unfortunately, a significant number of them did not understand significant portions of the above mentioned concepts. Perhaps they supported free enterprise capitalism (the economic system of private property and individual entrepreneurship), but thought it was perfectly fine for a mother to kill her baby. Perhaps they knew mothers are not supposed to kill their babies, but were very nervous when it came to Second Amendment issues. Some of them were unfamiliar with the concept of enumerated powers.
Even in the Constitution Party, which I whole-heartedly support, they had a plank in their platform advocating a strong Social Security system. Oops! Social Security is unConstitutional, not to mention unBiblical!
Other fine people, such as some Libertarians, have a keen understanding of the Constitution and economics (a much better grasp, I'm sorry to say, than the average Christian), but do not hold to the Biblical values so necessary to the fabric of society.
Other good people think variously that: we should have faith in our government, President Clinton is an honorable and trustworthy man who deserves our respect, taking government money is OK, you are weird if you support what the Constitution says in plain English, you are weird if you hold to what the Bible says instead of what is faddish, contemporary, and the popularly held view among Christians and Christian culture, you are weird if you actually prepare for crises, faith in God means do nothing and let God do everything to take care of you, God will rescue us out of all troubles, so we don't have to do anything to stop evil from progressing or attacking us, America will always be a free and wonderful country, Christians are not supposed to have any influence on society or culture or government (or else we are too busy, or our families are so busy falling apart that we don't have time to trifle with our nation), preachers are not supposed to address anything covered in this article.
In defining the principles over which we struggle, we may do well to reduce our plank to a few simple unifying principles. Hopefully the previously-mentioned foundational concepts are not so widely disputed that few people will agree to them. I consider them essential to the survival of our liberty, and probably our physical lives as well.
After determining on what we stand, we need to resolve to fight with relentless vehemence, and to never compromise or back down. We can take a cue from the environmentalists: think globally, act locally. You can pound your fists all day over what's happening 3 states away, but if you allow your local school board to jack property taxes through the roof, harass home schoolers, and teach the children the latest environmentalist, multi-cultural, globalist nonsense, what good is all your fist pounding? What good is your membership in Gun Owners of America if you do nothing when the local sheriff enforces the Brady Law, or state police set up check points to catch those "illegally" carrying firearms? (Just remember to be wise; and don't forget your family--they are part of the battle ground.)
From an individual standpoint, you might do well to pick one or two issues to major in, and be in the forefront of those issues. For me, those two issues are abortion and gun control. No abortions occur here in Fredericksburg as far as I know, and I'll do all in my power to see that they never start. Yes, I do have my ear to the ground on this. Whenever I hear that someone is planning an abortion, I do all I can to help them and persuade them, even if costs my job or whatever. As for gun control, I have authored several web sites dealing with the issue, and am working to spread the pro-gun message in the local communities here in the Texas hill country. And, it goes without saying that, as a Christian, I am always obligated to take the message of the gospel of Jesus Christ to everyone.
In looking back at the American and Texas revolutions began, several common themes emerge.
At first, the majority of the populations favored peacefully settling the differences, but as their petitions fell on deaf ears, and the oppression worsened, the majority gradually began to consider armed resistance as the only recourse. The oppressors' responded, not with an olive branch, but with a mailed fist, further pushing many of the populations to extreme measures. As relations crumbled, the oppressors resorted to disarming the opposition, which finally ignited the revolutions.
What will it take for us to successfully repulse the boots attempting to forever stomp on our faces into the dust (George Orwell)?
If we start with just the basics, it will become evident that we have a long way to go before enough like-minded people are sufficiently prepared to win a confrontation.
Preparing For Confrontations
1. Know The Truth
Understand the principles over which we struggle. It sounds ridiculously basic, but I don't see that most people involved in the struggle have an understanding of what's at stake, and what's right, and what's wrong.
I consider the Bible, and the Constitution (and associated documents) the two foundations of this country, and the foundations of liberty. Without both, we will have no liberty.
Foundational concepts include: God grants rights, and government's role is to secure those rights, including the rights to private property. The Constitution enumerates certain rights, including the right to keep and bear arms. The federal government is granted about 20 enumerated--specifically listed--powers, and may do nothing other than those listed powers, which means 90% of what the federal government does is unconstitutional, that is, illegal. Furthermore, (if I understand correctly) the Constitution states that judges must enforce the Constitution, even in states and local governments, meaning that the states also may not infringe on rights enumerated in the Constitution, especially since God has granted those rights. Families, primarily the fathers, are to provide housing and sustenance for their families. Parents are to raise, train, educate, and otherwise equip their children (not government schools or day care centers or self-appointed village idiots). Nobody is supposed to steal, including the government, which it does when it takes money from those who earned it and gives/lends it to those who didn't earn it (Social Security, unemployment, farm loans/grants, welfare, AFDC, Pell grants, small business loans, Medicaid, Medicare, job training, public works projects, etc, etc, etc!!). The people are supposed to be moral (no adultery, bearing of false witness, homosexuality, murder, etc).
Being involved in the Republican Party for more or less 15 years, I found many of the finest people in Texas. Unfortunately, a significant number of them did not understand significant portions of the above mentioned concepts. Perhaps they supported free enterprise capitalism (the economic system of private property and individual entrepreneurship), but thought it was perfectly fine for a mother to kill her baby. Perhaps they knew mothers are not supposed to kill their babies, but were very nervous when it came to Second Amendment issues. Some of them were unfamiliar with the concept of enumerated powers.
Even in the Constitution Party, which I whole-heartedly support, they had a plank in their platform advocating a strong Social Security system. Oops! Social Security is unConstitutional, not to mention unBiblical!
Other fine people, such as some Libertarians, have a keen understanding of the Constitution and economics (a much better grasp, I'm sorry to say, than the average Christian), but do not hold to the Biblical values so necessary to the fabric of society.
Other good people think variously that: we should have faith in our government, President Clinton is an honorable and trustworthy man who deserves our respect, taking government money is OK, you are weird if you support what the Constitution says in plain English, you are weird if you hold to what the Bible says instead of what is faddish, contemporary, and the popularly held view among Christians and Christian culture, you are weird if you actually prepare for crises, faith in God means do nothing and let God do everything to take care of you, God will rescue us out of all troubles, so we don't have to do anything to stop evil from progressing or attacking us, America will always be a free and wonderful country, Christians are not supposed to have any influence on society or culture or government (or else we are too busy, or our families are so busy falling apart that we don't have time to trifle with our nation), preachers are not supposed to address anything covered in this article.
In defining the principles over which we struggle, we may do well to reduce our plank to a few simple unifying principles. Hopefully the previously-mentioned foundational concepts are not so widely disputed that few people will agree to them. I consider them essential to the survival of our liberty, and probably our physical lives as well.
After determining on what we stand, we need to resolve to fight with relentless vehemence, and to never compromise or back down. We can take a cue from the environmentalists: think globally, act locally. You can pound your fists all day over what's happening 3 states away, but if you allow your local school board to jack property taxes through the roof, harass home schoolers, and teach the children the latest environmentalist, multi-cultural, globalist nonsense, what good is all your fist pounding? What good is your membership in Gun Owners of America if you do nothing when the local sheriff enforces the Brady Law, or state police set up check points to catch those "illegally" carrying firearms? (Just remember to be wise; and don't forget your family--they are part of the battle ground.)
From an individual standpoint, you might do well to pick one or two issues to major in, and be in the forefront of those issues. For me, those two issues are abortion and gun control. No abortions occur here in Fredericksburg as far as I know, and I'll do all in my power to see that they never start. Yes, I do have my ear to the ground on this. Whenever I hear that someone is planning an abortion, I do all I can to help them and persuade them, even if costs my job or whatever. As for gun control, I have authored several web sites dealing with the issue, and am working to spread the pro-gun message in the local communities here in the Texas hill country. And, it goes without saying that, as a Christian, I am always obligated to take the message of the gospel of Jesus Christ to everyone.
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when is enough enough? Part 5
by Freeman Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:43 pm
2. Develop Key Allies
Develop allies in government, business, military, law enforcement, the judiciary, etc. Reach out to them before trouble starts. I think personal contact beats sending reams of documents and videos. Sending all that stuff is less stressful than personal contact, but unless they agree with you already, they'll probably write you off as a nut case. Perhaps a phone call, or a simple letter that is friendly in tone. Send them an article in the mail, and then call them and ask them what they think about it. Take it slowly, because once they decide you are a nut, they won't hear anything you have to say.
Find who is for us, and who is against us. DON'T write people off as enemies. This is a BIG mistake I hear a lot. The whole point is to WIN them, and you can't win anyone by hating them, with rudeness or threats, or by accusing them of things, such as being part of some conspiracy or other, or being paid agents, or dupes, or traitors. They are our fellow countrymen, friends, neighbors, relatives. If we write them off as being our enemy, they probably WILL be our enemy!
Remember that you can disagree with someone on lots of major issues, and still work together on some things. Find something that you agree on, and agree to disagree on the rest. We come off sounding like a bunch of nuts when we consign everyone to the conspiracy who does not agree with us on everything. This relationship is particularly true between Christians and Libertarians. We might disagree on a lot, but we also agree on quite a bit. Let's work together as much as possible!
If you can't agree on anything, and they fight you all the way, be nice anyway. They can always change their mind later, especially if you show yourself to be their friend, no matter how wrong they are. Gentlemanly graciousness wins the day, and cuts down on ulcers.
3. Meet People On Their Level
Meet people where they are. For example, if you discuss the materials in this article with the unconvinced, they will think you are nuts, because these things have not yet touched them personally. They see no threats, and feel no pain. The store shelves are full, children play happily in the park, what is this stuff you are telling me? Are you crazy?
4. Bring Along The Population
Pursue a strategy of informing and escalating the anger of the populace to the point that they:
--Understand what the enemy is (preferably not who, but what)
--Feel threatened by the enemy
--Feel the need to do something
--Feel strongly enough to leave their comfort zones.
This is particularly important if and when the real action starts: if enough people don't show up on our side, we'll be squashed like a few noisy bugs.
At this point, the population consists of large percentages of people too busy to do anything unless they feel personally threatened. They believe the media, or in any event, do not believe us, or understand the Bible or the Constitution. They are happily engaged in the pursuit of money, stuff, pleasure, fulfillment, self-gratification, self-indulgence, self-esteem, etc. They don't want anyone disrupting their pursuit, particularly not Bible, Constitution, and gun toting folks.
The population generally has been deafened by all the selling, salesmen, solicitors, advertisers, and they really don't care to hear about one more idea or philosophy that will cost them what they are not willing to pay, and that they don't even want.
Furthermore, the people who do understand are so deluged and surrounded with evil that many of them are paralyzed into inaction or ineffectiveness. The tidal wave is sweeping over the city, the volcano is spewing firebombs in everyone's back yard--they are engulfed, and retreat to their comfortable little worlds, or are spread thinly across many battle fronts.
The bottom line is, we have little support in promoting that which is so necessary to restore our liberty.
5. Keep Your Eyes Open And Your Mind Sharp
Watch for abuses. What's the latest angle for registering and confiscating your guns? Again, this sounds easy, but it can be tricky, because there's so much hyperbole and nonsense emanating from our own quadrant. There are what might be termed superfluous issues, false alarms, unbalanced patriots, and those more interested in making a buck or a name than in presenting the unvarnished truth.
To catch abuses early, have good sources of information. Start with several local talk show host who are not given to exaggeration, for the most up to date information. Then consider a reputable publication like Human Events for national political news, plus email news letters from organizations like GOA, and NRA, although you have to be careful, because NRA tends to compromise on Second Amendment issues. These sources might not be timely, but they can alert you to trends that indicate what's going to happen. You also need several local sources, since confrontations you're involved in will be close to you. Don't forget friends who can physically go to a location and check out what's really happening. Police scanners are nice to have, since most confrontations will involve the police, military, or federal agencies.
Don't panic or be influenced by hysteria or unverified information. Calmly gather ALL facts. As a rule of thumb, people exaggerate and misinterpret situations. Don't make impulsive decisions if you can't gather accurate intelligence fast enough to please those urging immediate action. You'll always find someone loudly calling for immediate and drastic action. It's better to err on the side of caution than to wave a gun in someone's face and later decide you made a mistake. All you do is scare off the public support we so desperately need to win. And earn yourself a long prison term for no good reason.
After you know what's really happening, as opposed to the latest rumors, you can decide if a situation merits a response. And, you can determine exactly how to respond.
What is the line, beyond which we will not go? When will we start shooting? I would like to offer this: we will not allow our guns to be confiscated. We may hide them, sell them, send them out of state, bury them, or whatever. But, we will not surrender them, and when it becomes evident that confiscation is becoming systematic, we will meet those carrying out the confiscation, confront them peacefully, and stop them. If violence ensues, we will not be the initiators of it, but we will defend ourselves, and those who are being disarmed.
Knowing that someone is surrounded because of gun confiscation is extremely critical, because if we don't know for sure what is happening, our response will be timid and confused. That's why it's better to not act than to act prematurely or with only partial information. You can bet money that unscrupulous "patriots," the mentally unbalanced, criminals, and provocateurs will wave the Constitution to move us into premature or unnecessary action. Besides, martyrs and victims do more to arouse a sleeping populace than just about anything. If we give the other side martyrs, we will doubly ruin our chances of victory.
Carry a laminated card with phone numbers of friends, talk shows who can broadcast what's happening (with times when they are live), media outlets, police (so you can ask them what's happening), local numbers for an attorney who will help you, etc.
Timely, accurate intelligence is key to our success.
Develop allies in government, business, military, law enforcement, the judiciary, etc. Reach out to them before trouble starts. I think personal contact beats sending reams of documents and videos. Sending all that stuff is less stressful than personal contact, but unless they agree with you already, they'll probably write you off as a nut case. Perhaps a phone call, or a simple letter that is friendly in tone. Send them an article in the mail, and then call them and ask them what they think about it. Take it slowly, because once they decide you are a nut, they won't hear anything you have to say.
Find who is for us, and who is against us. DON'T write people off as enemies. This is a BIG mistake I hear a lot. The whole point is to WIN them, and you can't win anyone by hating them, with rudeness or threats, or by accusing them of things, such as being part of some conspiracy or other, or being paid agents, or dupes, or traitors. They are our fellow countrymen, friends, neighbors, relatives. If we write them off as being our enemy, they probably WILL be our enemy!
Remember that you can disagree with someone on lots of major issues, and still work together on some things. Find something that you agree on, and agree to disagree on the rest. We come off sounding like a bunch of nuts when we consign everyone to the conspiracy who does not agree with us on everything. This relationship is particularly true between Christians and Libertarians. We might disagree on a lot, but we also agree on quite a bit. Let's work together as much as possible!
If you can't agree on anything, and they fight you all the way, be nice anyway. They can always change their mind later, especially if you show yourself to be their friend, no matter how wrong they are. Gentlemanly graciousness wins the day, and cuts down on ulcers.
3. Meet People On Their Level
Meet people where they are. For example, if you discuss the materials in this article with the unconvinced, they will think you are nuts, because these things have not yet touched them personally. They see no threats, and feel no pain. The store shelves are full, children play happily in the park, what is this stuff you are telling me? Are you crazy?
4. Bring Along The Population
Pursue a strategy of informing and escalating the anger of the populace to the point that they:
--Understand what the enemy is (preferably not who, but what)
--Feel threatened by the enemy
--Feel the need to do something
--Feel strongly enough to leave their comfort zones.
This is particularly important if and when the real action starts: if enough people don't show up on our side, we'll be squashed like a few noisy bugs.
At this point, the population consists of large percentages of people too busy to do anything unless they feel personally threatened. They believe the media, or in any event, do not believe us, or understand the Bible or the Constitution. They are happily engaged in the pursuit of money, stuff, pleasure, fulfillment, self-gratification, self-indulgence, self-esteem, etc. They don't want anyone disrupting their pursuit, particularly not Bible, Constitution, and gun toting folks.
The population generally has been deafened by all the selling, salesmen, solicitors, advertisers, and they really don't care to hear about one more idea or philosophy that will cost them what they are not willing to pay, and that they don't even want.
Furthermore, the people who do understand are so deluged and surrounded with evil that many of them are paralyzed into inaction or ineffectiveness. The tidal wave is sweeping over the city, the volcano is spewing firebombs in everyone's back yard--they are engulfed, and retreat to their comfortable little worlds, or are spread thinly across many battle fronts.
The bottom line is, we have little support in promoting that which is so necessary to restore our liberty.
5. Keep Your Eyes Open And Your Mind Sharp
Watch for abuses. What's the latest angle for registering and confiscating your guns? Again, this sounds easy, but it can be tricky, because there's so much hyperbole and nonsense emanating from our own quadrant. There are what might be termed superfluous issues, false alarms, unbalanced patriots, and those more interested in making a buck or a name than in presenting the unvarnished truth.
To catch abuses early, have good sources of information. Start with several local talk show host who are not given to exaggeration, for the most up to date information. Then consider a reputable publication like Human Events for national political news, plus email news letters from organizations like GOA, and NRA, although you have to be careful, because NRA tends to compromise on Second Amendment issues. These sources might not be timely, but they can alert you to trends that indicate what's going to happen. You also need several local sources, since confrontations you're involved in will be close to you. Don't forget friends who can physically go to a location and check out what's really happening. Police scanners are nice to have, since most confrontations will involve the police, military, or federal agencies.
Don't panic or be influenced by hysteria or unverified information. Calmly gather ALL facts. As a rule of thumb, people exaggerate and misinterpret situations. Don't make impulsive decisions if you can't gather accurate intelligence fast enough to please those urging immediate action. You'll always find someone loudly calling for immediate and drastic action. It's better to err on the side of caution than to wave a gun in someone's face and later decide you made a mistake. All you do is scare off the public support we so desperately need to win. And earn yourself a long prison term for no good reason.
After you know what's really happening, as opposed to the latest rumors, you can decide if a situation merits a response. And, you can determine exactly how to respond.
What is the line, beyond which we will not go? When will we start shooting? I would like to offer this: we will not allow our guns to be confiscated. We may hide them, sell them, send them out of state, bury them, or whatever. But, we will not surrender them, and when it becomes evident that confiscation is becoming systematic, we will meet those carrying out the confiscation, confront them peacefully, and stop them. If violence ensues, we will not be the initiators of it, but we will defend ourselves, and those who are being disarmed.
Knowing that someone is surrounded because of gun confiscation is extremely critical, because if we don't know for sure what is happening, our response will be timid and confused. That's why it's better to not act than to act prematurely or with only partial information. You can bet money that unscrupulous "patriots," the mentally unbalanced, criminals, and provocateurs will wave the Constitution to move us into premature or unnecessary action. Besides, martyrs and victims do more to arouse a sleeping populace than just about anything. If we give the other side martyrs, we will doubly ruin our chances of victory.
Carry a laminated card with phone numbers of friends, talk shows who can broadcast what's happening (with times when they are live), media outlets, police (so you can ask them what's happening), local numbers for an attorney who will help you, etc.
Timely, accurate intelligence is key to our success.
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when is enough enough? Part 6
by Freeman Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:43 pm
6. Know Your Friends, And Know How To Communicate With Them
Know who will stand with you when the heat things heat up, and have several means of communication established. Be aware that most means can be monitored and shut down in an "emergency," including cell phones. Encrypted computer programs can be easily circumvented by means such as DIRT, and programs that stay resident even after you reformat your hard drive. They don't have to break the encryption, they just steal your password.
7. Inform The Masses
Respond in mass, and bring the media, even if they are not sympathetic. When the Branch Davidians were attacked, the media was not on their side, but we figured out what was happening, and it gave us the opportunity to seek out other sources of information.
Put a significant amount of effort into rallying as many people as possible.
If enough people respond, we stand a good chance of thwarting or delaying them. The core of our strategy should be to rally enough people to action quickly enough to stop Constitutional violations, without extreme measures.
If we can rally them to the polls on election day to vote out the rascals, and to vote down the bad laws, that's the best method of all. Since we can't do that on a consistent basis, I take it as an indication that too many people are complacent, apathetic, uninformed, or not on our side.
8. Defend
Assume a defensive posture. Let them shoot first. And be sure to video tape it!! Our job is to defend the Constitution; let them be the ones to attack American citizens. We only defend. This is the historical example that has proven effective. The British move against and fired upon the minutemen at Lexington Green. The Mexican troops demanded the cannon and were seeking a place to cross the river and seize the cannon before the Texans fired. The Nazis attacked the Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto and shipped out many of them before the Jews resisted. According to their testimony, the Branch Davidians did not shoot until they were fired upon. Randy Weaver never fired one shot.
On the other hand, those examples where people have carried out acts of aggression that were not in self defense have been universally condemned by the public, as they should be. Even in Texas, William B. Travis attacked a body of Mexican troops with no defensive objective. He was roundly condemned by the same Texans who later joined him fighting Santa Anna.
Attacks that are not obviously defensive, or symbolic strikes, or strikes that gain no strategic or military advantage are only terrorist attacks.
Any action must have a reasonable possibility of achieving a specific goal, which must be part of a larger strategy of ultimately:
--defending ourselves and our Constitutional rights;
--winning public support;
--setting back the enemy, that is, rendering them less able to harm us or our rights;
--restoring America to Constitutional/Biblical liberty
We should avoid premature action as heartily as non-defensive action. It's better to suffer wrong than to start something too early. Err on the side of caution.
If we strike without the public being able to see that our actions are defensive, we will lose the moral high ground in their eyes, which will destroy our potential support base, and will guarantee our defeat. We will become isolated, easy targets of both propaganda and bullets. We will be picked off even as we are made to appear as a few lone crazies who are a threat, and who are out to disrupt everyone's placid pursuits.
Know who will stand with you when the heat things heat up, and have several means of communication established. Be aware that most means can be monitored and shut down in an "emergency," including cell phones. Encrypted computer programs can be easily circumvented by means such as DIRT, and programs that stay resident even after you reformat your hard drive. They don't have to break the encryption, they just steal your password.
7. Inform The Masses
Respond in mass, and bring the media, even if they are not sympathetic. When the Branch Davidians were attacked, the media was not on their side, but we figured out what was happening, and it gave us the opportunity to seek out other sources of information.
Put a significant amount of effort into rallying as many people as possible.
If enough people respond, we stand a good chance of thwarting or delaying them. The core of our strategy should be to rally enough people to action quickly enough to stop Constitutional violations, without extreme measures.
If we can rally them to the polls on election day to vote out the rascals, and to vote down the bad laws, that's the best method of all. Since we can't do that on a consistent basis, I take it as an indication that too many people are complacent, apathetic, uninformed, or not on our side.
8. Defend
Assume a defensive posture. Let them shoot first. And be sure to video tape it!! Our job is to defend the Constitution; let them be the ones to attack American citizens. We only defend. This is the historical example that has proven effective. The British move against and fired upon the minutemen at Lexington Green. The Mexican troops demanded the cannon and were seeking a place to cross the river and seize the cannon before the Texans fired. The Nazis attacked the Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto and shipped out many of them before the Jews resisted. According to their testimony, the Branch Davidians did not shoot until they were fired upon. Randy Weaver never fired one shot.
On the other hand, those examples where people have carried out acts of aggression that were not in self defense have been universally condemned by the public, as they should be. Even in Texas, William B. Travis attacked a body of Mexican troops with no defensive objective. He was roundly condemned by the same Texans who later joined him fighting Santa Anna.
Attacks that are not obviously defensive, or symbolic strikes, or strikes that gain no strategic or military advantage are only terrorist attacks.
Any action must have a reasonable possibility of achieving a specific goal, which must be part of a larger strategy of ultimately:
--defending ourselves and our Constitutional rights;
--winning public support;
--setting back the enemy, that is, rendering them less able to harm us or our rights;
--restoring America to Constitutional/Biblical liberty
We should avoid premature action as heartily as non-defensive action. It's better to suffer wrong than to start something too early. Err on the side of caution.
If we strike without the public being able to see that our actions are defensive, we will lose the moral high ground in their eyes, which will destroy our potential support base, and will guarantee our defeat. We will become isolated, easy targets of both propaganda and bullets. We will be picked off even as we are made to appear as a few lone crazies who are a threat, and who are out to disrupt everyone's placid pursuits.
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when is enough enough? Part 7
by Freeman Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:44 pm
9. Those In Power Should Speak Out And Stand Up
People in power, particularly in law enforcement, need to take a well-articulated, principled stand against those attempting to disarm the populace. They need to stand with and support those resisting disarmament. They need to call the populace to mass resistance, with themselves acting as an example. There is probably no other single factor that will more quickly rally the populace and diffuse a confrontation than someone in power standing against disarmament. This principle also suggests that you should put yourself in a position of leadership so that, when the time comes, you can speak out and be heard.
Conclusion
I don't think we have enough people on our side to win a major confrontation, which is why we must bring others on board. We must know what is happening in our area so we can respond quickly and appropriately. Hopefully, all that will be necessary is to rally people to picket and protest anti-Second Amendment activities. But, whatever the case or the cost, we must unflinchingly hold the line, which means we will never surrender our arms.
Appendices
Appendix I
WHY WILL MANY PEOPLE NOT SHOW UP TO HELP US?
--Fear: they don't want to die or go to prison, lose all their possessions, their family, etc. ("If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." -- Samuel Adams, speech at the Philadelphia State House, August 1, 1776.")
--Inexperience: They've never engaged in any confrontation of any sort, from picketing to civil disobedience, and now they are going to engage in armed resistance and die?!? Not very likely. That's why it helps to start with harmless activities like picketing--your supporters have the chance to build their courage. They won't be green to being threatened with arrest, or at having someone wave a gun in their face, or in being tear gassed. A good place to start picketing is at the local abortion clinic, or at the local city council meeting where the homosexual agenda is being pushed. Or they can pass out gospel tracts at the local government school. These activities will also help them stop being complacent to all the evil that is around them.
Uncertainty: They don't know what or who to believe
People in power, particularly in law enforcement, need to take a well-articulated, principled stand against those attempting to disarm the populace. They need to stand with and support those resisting disarmament. They need to call the populace to mass resistance, with themselves acting as an example. There is probably no other single factor that will more quickly rally the populace and diffuse a confrontation than someone in power standing against disarmament. This principle also suggests that you should put yourself in a position of leadership so that, when the time comes, you can speak out and be heard.
Conclusion
I don't think we have enough people on our side to win a major confrontation, which is why we must bring others on board. We must know what is happening in our area so we can respond quickly and appropriately. Hopefully, all that will be necessary is to rally people to picket and protest anti-Second Amendment activities. But, whatever the case or the cost, we must unflinchingly hold the line, which means we will never surrender our arms.
Appendices
Appendix I
WHY WILL MANY PEOPLE NOT SHOW UP TO HELP US?
--Fear: they don't want to die or go to prison, lose all their possessions, their family, etc. ("If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." -- Samuel Adams, speech at the Philadelphia State House, August 1, 1776.")
--Inexperience: They've never engaged in any confrontation of any sort, from picketing to civil disobedience, and now they are going to engage in armed resistance and die?!? Not very likely. That's why it helps to start with harmless activities like picketing--your supporters have the chance to build their courage. They won't be green to being threatened with arrest, or at having someone wave a gun in their face, or in being tear gassed. A good place to start picketing is at the local abortion clinic, or at the local city council meeting where the homosexual agenda is being pushed. Or they can pass out gospel tracts at the local government school. These activities will also help them stop being complacent to all the evil that is around them.
Uncertainty: They don't know what or who to believe
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Re: when is enough enough? Part 1
by AVDRT Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:31 am
This article speaks of things that I have been teaching for years. The only thing that I found was lacking is the section about educating and assisting others to get to the point that they can meet their needs without the government infrastructure. Nearly everything else is covered. I will read it again to find something else. It is possible that I may not, it is that well written.
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I could not agree more
by Freeman Sat Sep 26, 2009 12:33 am
I think this stated it clearly about what is happening and I could not agree with you more.
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